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- From: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
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- Subject: Re: Edelman fallacies (was Re: Skeptic fallacies, a select few)
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- Date: 19 Jun 1996 12:22:10 GMT
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- RICHARD PERRON (richard@io.org) wrote:
-
- : Truth can be stranger than fiction and it usually predates comparable
- : fiction as well. I plucked 5 cases from Jacques Vallee's Passport To
- : Magonia. Interestingly, despite the fact that these people had never
- : read Amazing or came in contact with people who read Amazing
-
- You know, it can be shown that every person on earth can be linked
- to any other person on earth through an average of 5 links through
- other people! Amazing, innit?
-
- It also suggests that the likelyhood these people cited by Vallee never
- heard any of the saucer stories before their claimed encounters is
- near zero.
-
- And the claim that they had "never come in contact with peple who
- read Amazing" is just plain unsupportable.
-
- , the
- : accounts read (substantively) just like modern cases.
-
- : PASSPORT TO MAGONIA UFO SIGHTINGS DATABASE (partial)
- : ------------------------------------------
- : UFO LANDINGS (1868-1943)
- : ------------------------------------------
- : DISKS OR OVOID-SHAPED UFOS (pre-1943)
-
- : ** Scanned in by Don Allen ** Edited by Lloyd Jacobs
- : =====================================================================
- : May. 15, 1879 Persian Gulf. Two very large "wheels" were seen
- : 2140 spinning in the air and slowly coming to the surface
- : of the sea. Estimated diameter: 40 m. Distance be-
- : tween the objects: 150 m. Speed: 80 km/h/ Duration:
- : 35 min. Witnesses aboard the ship "Vultur" (Round
- : up 17; Anatomy 12)
-
- Note that estimate of ditance and size are interdependant, and impossible
- to perform with sightings from a single point of an unknown object. Sightings
- over water eliminate any possible reference to compare to. Was it 40m
- objects, 150m apart? 400M objects 1.5KM apart? 40cm objects 1.5M apart?
-
- And so on...
-